tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post5632748151143289550..comments2024-03-07T12:45:00.391+00:00Comments on BBCZeitgeist.Blogspot.Com British Born Chinese Blog: Asian American & British Chinese Stereotypes - Which Asian are you?happybritishchinesehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-20389924602768624332011-06-04T12:46:23.851+01:002011-06-04T12:46:23.851+01:00Wow
I take my hat off to you, I didn't know ...Wow <br /><br />I take my hat off to you, I didn't know there were so many different Asian stereotypesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-78977791771639745492011-05-27T00:35:16.114+01:002011-05-27T00:35:16.114+01:00It seems strange to label South East Asians as Eas...It seems strange to label South East Asians as East Asian in any other context other than in the field of arts. Pan-Asian is a better term, yet its not a widely used term in the UK. <br /><br />And no, in real life, ditto, I don't call myself oriental at all, nor East Asian nor Asian nor pan-Asian, only Chinese.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-10466753004921653272011-05-24T17:47:57.659+01:002011-05-24T17:47:57.659+01:00Maybe should use inverted commas - 'oriental&#...Maybe should use inverted commas - 'oriental' to emphasize 'figure of speech,' after all the subject is 'stereotypes.'<br /><br />It could be argued FOB is derogatory, created by westerners, yet FOB extended stereotypes in the article are appropriated by Asian's. Does that mean terms such as Fobulous shouldn't be used? There is even an Asian American film by that name.<br /><br />You are refering to my blog entry...<br /><br />"Are jewish men targeting asian oriental women?"<br /><br />If oriental is omitted...to.. "Are Jewish men targeting Asian women?"<br /><br />'Asian women' works fine if its in the USA, however this is a UK blog, in the UK, the term 'Asian' generally does not refer to Chinese at all, the term has been hijacked and used almost exclusively by Indian sub-continent. Using 'Asian' on a British website would simply draw traffic from Indians, Pakistanis, not Chinese.<br /><br />University of London has the famous SOAS (school of Oriental and African studies), the university is completely free from accusations of being politically incorrect.<br /><br />Wing yip, the famous UK Chinese supermarket slogan is "chinese and oriental food made easy"<br /><br />Nor... "Are Jewish men targeting East Asian women?"<br /><br />Thai, Vietnamese, Filipina, Singaporean etc are South East Asian NOT East Asian. Malaysians and Singaporeans do not say "I'm of East Asian descent?" however they may say "I'm of Chinese descent." IMO, British Chinese have far more in common socially with S-E Asians than East Asians such as Japanese or Korean.<br /><br />'From the Far East?' is not really that different to 'from the orient.' <br /><br />What other term would you use to replace oriental without having a ridiculously long headline?<br /><br />What alternative is there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-8036945993605643292011-05-23T04:16:44.271+01:002011-05-23T04:16:44.271+01:00From reading several of your blog entries I find i...From reading several of your blog entries I find it a little strange that you are very concerned about political correctness, yet you insist on using such an outdated term for Asians. (AND you call yourself 'Zeitgeist!') It just doesn't add up.. Unless you're doing some form of satire on white people, though it's very unclear. I'm mostly just trying to understand, not trying to bash or judge. <br /><br />Maybe there's not as strong a cultural stigma to the word "orientals" outside of my bubble. Maybe the majority of people who make a fuss about it are Asian Americans. I personally do not take offense to the word Orientals, because I know that the people who've said it, in my personal experience, do not know any other way to classify us as it's what they've grown up saying. To them it's simply a way of classifying us. I never sensed any malice, and I suppose there's a lack of exposure to Asian-Americans. I'm trying to jog my memory but I can't remember hearing an Asian use the term in recent time, but I suspect if there had been that I let slip that they had to of been from the old generation, not my generation, and if they have children who were born here, well, then they probably were never taught to say otherwise, or have never gotten used to using the word Asians.<br /><br />Even if the word is basically incorrect; historically it has been the most general, safest, non-hateful way of addressing people of east asian descent -- that is, I mean, out of the sea of racial slurs people call us. <br />I'll admit though that I pretty much used "orientals" as a way of calling asians until someone corrected me when I was about 10. Interestingly, I think that person may have been White. When I finally got used to addressing Asians as Asians It was then that I felt the need to correct my parents as they were the ones who taught me the word, but I don't blame them. "Asians" probably just didn't enter everyday vernacular until recently.<br /><br />I personally do not see it as a racial slur, but I do prefer "Asians" not just because it's the most socially accepted term, but because it's direct (we are people of that continent, truth), and neutral sounding (unlike orientals, it doesn't have quite as many old western associations attached such as beings of mystery: "mystical beings from the orient."). This is not to say that it doesn't shock me when I hear it, but I try to be open minded, as I am now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-38311096220954068342011-05-22T20:01:15.296+01:002011-05-22T20:01:15.296+01:00@anonymous above. no i dont find it offensive, i ...@anonymous above. no i dont find it offensive, i just think east asians need to stop seeing differences in each other because thats what has held us back for so long. if you want to classify me im a FOBABEE whose skills as my native language is lacking but if you want to include me above my Chinese pride is probably right now stronger than 10 BBCS who can speak putonghua, cantonese, hakka and all the east asian languages under the sun but is a typical passive aggressive wimp who only looks out for no1 and wont speak up / care about the worldwide media / covert war injustice against chinese/east asians. for all i care those 10 may audition for that that DVD saleswoman role who gets fucked royally by the white bloke in east enders and share exotic chinese recipes and look down on their noses on the minorities over a glass of wineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-1372882534007928582011-05-12T01:39:27.064+01:002011-05-12T01:39:27.064+01:00funny how the person above loves ticking all the r...funny how the person above loves ticking all the right boxes and patting themselves on the shoulder. this is the problem with the chinese psychology. always wanting to be right.<br /><br />and that list of descriptions is a joke. why do you have to be any of those? just reeks of insecurity and east asian selfhate using the white mans own divide and conquer system to divide us even further against ourselves. <br /><br />just be yourself. proud to be Chinese/ East Asian. Full stop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-47352258015220828852011-03-23T17:11:30.475+00:002011-03-23T17:11:30.475+00:00Fobulous! That's a new one, never heard of it....Fobulous! That's a new one, never heard of it. Ok that's me. I dislike labels, but I could check all of the above except that "apt107" and AA page one. <br />Let's see I'm neither FOB nor ABC, neither am I great in math. In fact I was a Fine Arts major.<br />I love speaking my dialect/langauge (Shanghainese) and am fluent (can speak some Mandarin and Cantonese too). Growing up it was like a secret language. Even the Chinese around me didn't understand it because they all spoke Mandarin, Toisan or Cantonese. So I could talk about anything or anyone, and no one understood us. <br />Yeah and I know all the HK pop stars. Love J-Rock, esp. Gackt. For awhile was sick of American music (can't stand soul or rap), but now it's great, what with all the Indies and alternative music.<br /><br />As for looks, I felt insecure that I wasn't Chinese looking enough. People always assume I'm Japanese or Korean, they (including whites) never fail to have to tell me I don't look typically Chinese. What's typical looking I wonder? <br /><br />Friends: mainly Asian (all kinds) and whites.<br /><br />Wondering if there are a lot of Chinese like me. I think there should be.^_^<br /><br />Key is I never felt the need to prove to myself whether I was white or Chinese enough. <br />I bet it helps to grow up idolizing your parents and cousins, thinking that they were the most beautiful Asians ever. Family influence and background is important I think.<br /><br />Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com