tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post7531851894168702011..comments2024-03-29T10:51:09.468+00:00Comments on BBCZeitgeist.Blogspot.Com British Born Chinese Blog: Can BBC's Find Happiness In The Far East?happybritishchinesehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-23599962347498053392016-01-06T13:33:37.240+00:002016-01-06T13:33:37.240+00:00"BBC Zeitgeist" ... you only have to rea..."BBC Zeitgeist" ... you only have to read the word "zeitgeist" to realise that whoever was behind this Blog was some 20-something young runt who used to read the Guardian or the Economist or both a lot! Only some twat from Oxford or Cambridge would actually speak like that! Not even Gok Wan would use such a word! <br /><br />Did whoever who originally started the Blog go back to Hong Kong, Malaysia or Singapore after trolling his way for 3 years in some Uni in London?! I though so! "British", my arse! Had been to some "international schools" out in Hong Kong, obviously! <br /><br />How is the Far East working out at the moment, my arse! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-1464133323862813742013-08-31T22:53:12.453+01:002013-08-31T22:53:12.453+01:00This is obviously one big Troll blog from one &quo...This is obviously one big Troll blog from one "Zhanglan", formerly blogging regularly on the Daily and Sunday Telegraph (although he still does under various pseudonyms), and now lives in Hong Kong. That bored and unemployed man likes to sit behind his computer at his family's grotty "Ting Uk" (Ding Uk) and pretend that he were different persons all at the same time. Psychosis and schizophrenia writ large. Like the Chinese-Indonesians that returned to China during the 1950s and the 1960s, he ("BBC Zeitgeist", "Happy British Chinese", &c., &c., &c.) is an "[useful] idiot" for the Chinese Communist Party, although of course they would never accept a person who neither speaks Cantonese nor Mandarin as a full Chinese, never mind a patriot. <br /><br />[Apologies.] Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-61433958601725773182013-08-31T22:48:15.302+01:002013-08-31T22:48:15.302+01:00This is obviously one big Troll blog from one &quo...This is obviously one big Troll blog from one "Zhanglan", formerly blogging regularly on the Daily and Sunday Telegraph (although he still does under various pseudonyms), and now lives in Hong Kong. That bored and unemployed man likes to sit behind his computer at his family's grotty "Ting Uk" (Ding Uk) and pretend that he were different persons all at the same time. Psychosis and schizophrenia writ large. Like the Chinese-Indonesians that returned to China during the 1950s and the 1960s, he ("BBC Zeitgeist", "Happy British Chinese", &c., &c., &c.) is an "usual idiot" for the Chinese Communist Party, although of course they would never accept a person who neither speaks Cantonese nor Mandarin as a full Chinese, never mind a patriot. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-3524511993499437732012-11-24T00:11:54.746+00:002012-11-24T00:11:54.746+00:00Bro,If youre talking about the zionist/jew comment...Bro,If youre talking about the zionist/jew comment, this is an American Jew that has spams this blog, and other Asian-political blogs, since the beginning of time. You can email BBCz and ask him yourself,if you think I use these insults without purpose or to 'impress' people.<br /><br />You can also ask SF about when I accused her of being that same person, she took insult when I explained to her I mistook her for the same troll that comes on here.<br /><br />Finally, read this<br /><br />http://bbczeitgeist.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/should-bbcs-to-be-racist-towards-non.html<br /><br />If people think they can be racist/pisstake us Chinese, as far as Im concerned, theyre open game to me, as well. <br /><br />That includes the sinophobic british media which is run by these same fake-hebrew diaspora, ( note I said FAKE)<br /><br />Like it or not, this blog is for ethnic British Chinese. Any non-Chinese is a guest that needs discriminating as far as Im concerned.<br />happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-69945104890460997522012-11-23T23:43:33.375+00:002012-11-23T23:43:33.375+00:00@happybritishchinese, please sound less racist in ...@happybritishchinese, please sound less racist in some of your articles/posts because it makes us look bad; apart from that, you have mostly good comments.LaughinGornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-16483872637461472632012-11-23T21:01:31.010+00:002012-11-23T21:01:31.010+00:00SF
The MAJOR issue of our community, and any west...SF<br /><br />The MAJOR issue of our community, and any western East asian community for that matter, is historically, apart from the whitewashing IS the IR issue going on that BBC/FOB women are largely responsible for.<br /><br />Look at the comments on this page. Read the ones from the BBC males that berate the Chinese women IR, then read the ones that ask 'Are all of you single? You must, otherwise why are you dissing the Chinese/oriental females so much.', then read the BBC male responses - 'No my girlfriends a BBC but I can sympathise with my peers'.<br /><br />Then you preaching we need Chinese people around the world to unite, What the fuck are you smoking? This is a BBC blog. Great if Professor Kong Qingdong having managed to read this blog from beyond the great China firewall is actually having some sympathy for us, but BBCs need to report our own issues first.<br /><br />Even though we are divided geographically etc etc Its important that we can show unity in our ideals, separate from other Chinese because THAT is what will get us, as a sub-ethnic minority, the respect we deserve, both from FOBS ( who from overseas many of whom dont even know we exist) and from the mainstream and of course the other British Chinese FOBS based on Chinese pride and personal idealistic accountability. No ifs no buts, easier for some more than others, but its the only reason Im still here.<br /><br />And that same accountability will benefit the Chinese race in the end, anyway, but for some reason you still cant see that.<br /><br />Youre head is a bubble of delusion that needs a good pop. And im sorry to say this, but Im willing to give it a go.<br /><br />Re :wong sing, no idea, let someone else answer that.happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-74172940013575650642012-11-23T20:25:21.791+00:002012-11-23T20:25:21.791+00:00I dont either, and as we can see below 'it'...I dont either, and as we can see below 'it' is a troll. Re your 3 points. <br /><br />Re:1 Agreed most of us regulars online here, may well share similar personalities and at least consider each others opinions even if we dont always agree.<br /><br />r2 The selfish thing is right in my viewpoint as you say make up for what went wrong. But thats all they know because Chinese survivalism comes first and foremost.<br /><br />r3 My overseas rels see me as blood, but the jooksing insults I got were from non-family FOBS strangers, if thats what youre referring to by 'snubbing', I still get it from my FOB mainlander friends, but not as direct as some cantonese FOBS can be. Again if my lingo isnt as great as it could be, you cant blame them, and can only try and make up for it my own good time.<br /><br />Good luck with big C. Dont quit for long do you hahahappybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-81594211997059602612012-11-23T19:20:30.216+00:002012-11-23T19:20:30.216+00:00Happybritishchinese, in particular your last comme...Happybritishchinese, in particular your last comment, I think it's all too easy to just blame BBC women for being self-hating. It's as if all BBC men unite as the same. Can that accurate? Are all BBC men the same? I don't think so, which makes me reject the view that because of the situation we are in, blame it on the women seems too simplistic. <br /><br />You might be few and far between, but I've seen more BBC men interested in latest gadgets than interested in politics. <br /><br />I think it's a combination of our upbringing and the culture looking after our immediate family. There tends to be this "look the other way" when other BBCs or FOBs are in need of help or advice.<br /><br />You might be different to that, but the many BBCs and FOBs I encounter prefer to keep their heads down and bask in their own little circles of success. Is that insular? Or are more of us more shallow than we like tp think. We care more about our labels than the bigger and wider picture of what it means to be a minority in a white country.<br /><br />Maybe, one day I will get to understand your need to carve out a big distinction between BBC and FOB/mainland, but for now, I think Chinese people around the world need to unite first and foremost to build a strong voice that rejects the western media's style of bullying reporting.<br /><br />Finally going back to the usage of yellow. Out of interest, anyone here know the origins of how China town came to be called "wong sing."? I'm genuinely interested. SF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-81710094997373308692012-11-23T19:04:04.449+00:002012-11-23T19:04:04.449+00:00And Im amazed that you are stupid enough see peopl...And Im amazed that you are stupid enough see peoples answers to your previous comments above and yet in ignorance choose to ignore them. Until proven otherwise, we'll accept IT'S a troll.happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-66400071691220104232012-11-23T18:47:29.557+00:002012-11-23T18:47:29.557+00:00It wasn't a troll but I'm amazed how small...It wasn't a troll but I'm amazed how small minded you are that you cannot see and accept people for who they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-88570993474225966712012-11-23T16:21:50.047+00:002012-11-23T16:21:50.047+00:00And that, is what happens to zionist-jew trolls wh...And that, is what happens to zionist-jew trolls who think they can spam irrelevant chinasmack links on here.happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-56365834617976280062012-11-23T15:28:12.837+00:002012-11-23T15:28:12.837+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-84328490185182721152012-11-23T08:23:12.882+00:002012-11-23T08:23:12.882+00:00@SF Banana is used by HK FOBS, yes so what of it? ...@SF Banana is used by HK FOBS, yes so what of it? Just because some HK'ers call you that doesnt mean a BBC has to accept it.<br /><br />And BBCs are being dwarfed by new wave younger FOBS, so what? Does that justify your 'yellow' categorisation?<br /><br />On a wider scale we are Chinese yes, but just because we are a small group, doesnt mean we have to give up the idea of social distinction as well. Course If BBC women werent so pathetic and self hating maybe BBC social identity would be a lot more definitive than it is now.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-43184458693601697512012-11-22T23:23:50.202+00:002012-11-22T23:23:50.202+00:00@annoymous22 November 2012 02:28
To locals in HK a...@annoymous22 November 2012 02:28<br />To locals in HK and China, we re Bananas. Simple minded because we're too 'westernised'<br /><br /> I think that probably just reflects how YOU come across, which is as you said simple minded, and you supposedly speak canto as well.<br /> Try wearing some nice clothes or change your mannerisms that reflect sharpness etc.<br /> Smarter BBcs are more cluded up and come across as intellegent and refined.<br /> Or is it just that some white washed chinese women are just simply shallow, as the chinese saying goes "there is no medicine for stupidity".<br />I love furnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-18579475355252313842012-11-22T22:35:45.023+00:002012-11-22T22:35:45.023+00:00Happybritishchinese, fair enough, we might differ ...Happybritishchinese, fair enough, we might differ on this. To me, within our circle it might be important for that distinction, but on a wider scale, I think what you are hoping will never happen. We are too small compared to the new-wave younger FOBs entering here and in America.<br /><br />I can see how the yellow label with annoy Chinese people being lumped with Japanese etc. SHowever, I still don't believe that not being offended by such a word makes me taking acceptance of colonial times. I might be thick skin about this, but isn't the term banana used quite freely by Chinese people? SF.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-43367859094243462282012-11-22T22:16:34.533+00:002012-11-22T22:16:34.533+00:00I don't fully buy it when Anonymous22 November...I don't fully buy it when Anonymous22 November 2012 02:28 says BBCs are just bananas and not accepted anywhere, <br /> 1.BBCs accept other BBCs generally, they instantly understand each other because of the difficult shared cultural experience we have, however that doesn't mean they always make good friends or have similar personalities, I can't stand some BBCs as well as having some of them as my closest friends.<br /> 2.Usually parents of BBCs accept BBCs as their "son" or"daugther" despite their shallow materialistic values, they "love" them in their own selfish limited emotional and non-expressive range etc. They usually f...ed up and alienated themselves, which is why they have children in the first place, for many selfish reasons. As stated the cycle continues.<br /> 3. Overseas relatives of BBCs don't necessarily snub BBCs, we share the genetic material, facially and physically alike, my overseas relative refuse to see other than chinese, they see it as your blood line. (but you need to travel and learn to be aware of this)<br /> Its also an indication of the amount of closeness your extended family warmth is, whether you have been excluded from these "natural" bonds.<br /> For me, if there is one regret of living in the UK and raising children in the future in UK, it will be this one, because of the "love" they would of had.<br /><br />anyway that my nugget of wisdom for today and so to the casino.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-32429567362045140802012-11-22T17:25:11.580+00:002012-11-22T17:25:11.580+00:00It's fine if a BBC decides to stay in the UK o...It's fine if a BBC decides to stay in the UK or even to move to another Western country. If we are to grow in numbers then that needs to happen and more importantly we need to marry with other BBCs to increase our numbers. The most racist places in a Western country are almost always ones that have the highest concentration of whites compared to non-whites. <br /><br />But we don't owe it to our fobby parents to stay in the UK and not move back to our countries of origin. The HK and Mainland China of today are massively different from the countries that our parents left. <br /><br />One more reason why BBCs should explore HK and China more is that we would do well to create an awareness of "the West" amongst the locals that is independent of white people. The idea of white is right has really taken off in China but we have the knowledge and experience to challenge that. Hell, there are more British Chinese people than all whites combined in China. Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-32688210834823691192012-11-22T15:56:05.390+00:002012-11-22T15:56:05.390+00:00Majority of BBCs too lazy to create a unique sense...Majority of BBCs too lazy to create a unique sense of social value settle for dross and choose not to take interest in each others lives or even glamourise ourselves - two things that could easily unite us as individuals, but no, bar a minority we still we choose patheticness<br /><br />http://bbczeitgeist.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/british-born-chinese-blog.html<br /><br />Again if you take the time to study the whole comments on this page properly, not just skimp through it just to say your self-interested bit, you'll notice i said its an ALTERNATIVE,for us, not the be-all end all. <br /><br />If repaying your parents by staying here is all you feel your BBC existance is about, then thats your choice. As you say, we are different. <br /><br />And if you are going to interprete this article as 'go back to where you came from' says to me you have a degree of self-hatred in yourself that maybe you ought to fix, because you are only reading into this article what you want to see. <br /><br />Personally I dont give a flying fuck about what people think, what my parents think and what some gweilo hakkgwei achar or zionist jew-troll is going to think about me going back to where i came from. If BBCs live a self interested life, its also up to ME to live mine, and if that means going abroad, so be it. Reality will let it self be known regardless, may as well just live it.<br /> <br />As for the BBC article, FOBS or BBCS whose sexier whose better yes it works both ways, read into it any way you want. I didnt write it, BBCzeitgeist did. Got an issue, email him, Im just managing the blog.<br /><br />Re: Handsome BBC men,dating not so pretty white girls thats a new phenomena to me, I havent seen it. Where in the UK have you seen this? Which areas, be specific.<br /><br />By the way, are you dating an ethnic Chinese male? And dont recall you on this blog before, are you new here?<br /><br />Be warned: if i sniff anything about you to be a troll, especially the same one I think you are, youre getting deleted. Instantly. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-50442808087303536532012-11-22T14:36:14.248+00:002012-11-22T14:36:14.248+00:00@happybritishchinese22 November 2012 03:31
I know...@happybritishchinese22 November 2012 03:31<br /><br />I know a few BBCs who have relocated to HK and are happy and a few who moved elsewhere because they weren't. I was simply giving my opinion that you're going to get discriminted against everywhere you go. As a BBC female I don't feel any more accepted by the 'British multicultural mainstream than overseas' compared to a BBC man. I've had my fair share of racism from White/Black/Pakistani men and women. I've also heard Hong Kongers calling me a Banana and that I don't understand the Chinese ways, even though I speak fluent Cantonese, and can be more traditional than some Hong Kongers and mainlanders. Isn't that why this blog is around? We as BBCs are not going to be fully 'accepted' anywhere.<br /><br />I like being a BBC, I can pick and choose from both cultures. I listen to my parents but can disagree strongly if I feel they're wrong. They came here to give themselves and to give us a better life. Why would I repay them by saying 'you're wrong coming here, my life's shit cos I get called Chinky, so I'm going back to where you came from'. I want to stay here because my family and friends are here.<br /><br />I'm confused about what you're trying to say about the ugly BBC females article. The article wasn't comparing anything other than looks between FOBS and BBCs. Very superficial. With the comment 'one hot FOB girl will still be more attractive than a 1000 ugly bbc women.' It works the other way 'one hot BBC girl will still be more attractive than a 1000 ugly FOB women.' It's common sense.<br /><br />I don't know if enough about good looking BBC men choosing white women to write a whole article. It was something I've noticed recently and the white girls they choose aren't even that pretty.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-14005321713598261792012-11-22T03:31:39.193+00:002012-11-22T03:31:39.193+00:00Noone said it would be perfect moving abroad, but ...Noone said it would be perfect moving abroad, but whose to say it wont work out? You obviously havent read the whole page of comments or examples of BBC who have successfully relocated and are happier overseas, predominantly male, yes. But then maybe majority of the BBC women feel more 'accepted' by the British multicultural mainstream than overseas, hence no need to relocate.<br /><br />The ugly BBC females article was comparing FOBS to BBCs. Can either mean FOBS females in the UK compared to BBC females in the UK, and is comparing the nature of the two ie westernised or authentic, regardless of numbers, in the same way that one hot FOB girl will still be more attractive than a 1000 ugly bbc women.<br /><br />If what you have noticed is that the good looking BBC males choose white women, why not send an article in? My email's on profile.happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-55094793423286876992012-11-21T22:44:08.574+00:002012-11-21T22:44:08.574+00:00@SF I disagree, categorising us as yellow along wi...@SF I disagree, categorising us as yellow along with blacks browns whites for me means accepting colonisation. <br /><br />'British Born Chinese blog' = 'British Born Proud Yellow Person' doesnt quite sound the same either does it?<br /><br />Also calling us Yellow is categorising us along with Koreans Japanese etc. <br /><br />In an age where China is no 1., Japan Korea etc means sweet FA. And for those Hong Kong history -sensitive BBCs, by calling them yellow, you are also labelling them Japanese.<br /><br />Im Chinese, I dont give a fuck about colonialist categorisation or subverting them.<br /><br />Social identity however,is a different matter, because to just call us Chinese, just gives future gens, the same excuse not to create a unique BBC culture, which is what this blog is advocating. <br /><br />A FOB will still distinguish against a BBC, no matter which way you want to look at it, because of language or dialect differences,unless your language is spot on/matches, but unless BBCs master the language of their immediate heritage then go to live there,ie become a FOB, that wont change. And even with BBCs who relocate, as Ive been told by others, which I believe, they will never truly become a FOB.<br /><br />FOBS distinguishing us then gives us a right to distinguish back, call them FOBS and have our own niche. Hence BBC.<br /><br />As the result of FOB parents 'Chinese dream' being born and educated in an imperialist country, BBCS are the Chinese most knowledgable to speak out against sinophobic imperialism.Indiscriminate FOBS would never do this nor have the intelligence to because theyre too busy getting whitewashed.<br /><br />Under that context, reframing our social identity classification, makes me, a proud British Born Chinese.<br /><br />Like the Hong Kong Chinese label - one country two systems. Only difference being we were never 'accepted' by the brits, our heritage is not white English, its Chinese.<br />happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-88024997658234158882012-11-21T19:34:21.797+00:002012-11-21T19:34:21.797+00:00No more casinos and Happybritishchinese, you can c...No more casinos and Happybritishchinese, you can call it ignorance because the description came about during colonial times, but sometimes, words can change meaning over time. Just because of a word's origins, it doesn't mean I adopt west is best attitude.<br /><br />If that were the case, I should stop wearing jeans and t-Shirts. The fact is, western culture is central around the world. When I say west is best, I'm notmally talking about ideals, political systems, and our lack of racial pride.<br /><br />I remember growing up knowing 'coloured' was acceptable and'black' quite offensive. Now, it's the other way round.<br /><br />I always find it odd how British Born Chinese came about. It's like a marked distinction of 'British' ahead of Chinese. Why can't we be Chinese. I know of second generation Nigerians, and they're not labelled British-born Nigerians.<br /><br />Personally, I think Chinese is the better description than adding British Born. That allows us to simplify things rather than saying things like Maintlanders. SF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-48723667323151662282012-11-21T04:49:14.066+00:002012-11-21T04:49:14.066+00:00haha - your right though, 'yellow' was int...haha - your right though, 'yellow' was introduced with the Age Of Colonialism, <br /><br />http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?/topic/16141-skin-colour-of-chinese-is-it-yellow/<br /><br />but also according to Chinese FOB history:<br /><br />'ancient Chinese Five Phases theory. The Yellow Emperor is associated with the Phase Earth, which corresponds to the colour Yellow.'<br /><br />If the new age belongs to China could have positive connoitations but then we arent ruled by China and not speaking Chinese.<br /><br />Prefer 'golden' myself. Golden, innit?<br /><br />BTW Born In the Usa? ...was thinking more coldplays song about jaundice.. we were all 'yellow' ...bleurghhappybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-6505746263955826572012-11-21T02:11:30.934+00:002012-11-21T02:11:30.934+00:00Yellow, Wong sick, no no no, I can't believe ... Yellow, Wong sick, no no no, I can't believe your ignorance and insensitivity of all places here a BBC blog. You must of been listening to Born in the USA lyrics too much. I think you re the one that is adopting the the west is best attitude, without realising it, and dissing others.<br /><br />No more casinosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-33418149699461014242012-11-20T18:49:41.122+00:002012-11-20T18:49:41.122+00:00Happybritishchinese, I agree with the over-reactin...Happybritishchinese, I agree with the over-reacting. I sometimes cringe at myself for shooting Hong Kong people for being so self-important with their borrowed previledges. <br /><br />I guess we are somehow using westernisation to suit us when we think it's right. In the end, it must be highly irritating for mainlanders hearing us whine like spoilt children after we've tasted it and now fancy a bit of rawness. After all, what do we 'really' know about living in China longterm. Others might say, in order to flee and face real-life racism and make it better for the next generation, we are simply running to our own hoping it won't touch us anymore. But in reality, it's still there on a grander scale.<br /><br />Using yellow to describe my colouring is not offensive to me. It is if we shy away from using such word. After time, it will start to appear like a backward word. I think why not. Use that colour. Use that word. SF. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com