tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post790049339960113610..comments2024-03-07T12:45:00.391+00:00Comments on BBCZeitgeist.Blogspot.Com British Born Chinese Blog: BT Ripping Us Chinese Apart For London 2012happybritishchinesehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-88447211807974851462012-10-21T01:29:36.936+01:002012-10-21T01:29:36.936+01:00If they persist in posting any more stupid comment...If they persist in posting any more stupid comments bigging up/promoting other races, just delete them for point.7 violation. BBCZeitgeisthttp://www.bbczeitgeist.blogspot.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-46158122034595858012012-10-21T01:17:50.553+01:002012-10-21T01:17:50.553+01:001) 'The "us and them" mindset is wha...1) 'The "us and them" mindset is what leads to genuine racism and discrimination against other groups.' This is a Chinese blog, we represent our own interest. If Asian muslims encounter racism, thats their problem and its upto their own ethnic groups to tackle it, not my issue.<br /><br />2) Possibly the most famous inter racial marriage (that hasnt resulted in seperation) in the UK is between a muslim and white man - Konnie Huq and Charlie Brooker. Now see if you can name one famous marriage between Chinese male and White female in Britain? And if youre wondering, I dont want to see Chinese males and white female coupless in the media, I'm just using your own point to illustrate how wrong you are.<br /><br />3) wider society? Please tell what you mean wider society? Are law courts, journalists, politicians, literary writers, TV presenters, not wider society then? Theres muslims in prominent positions in all those professions. Mushtaq Khokhar is a pakistani British judge, Nazir Afzal is chief crown prosecutor, Shamim Qureshi is a district judge, how many British Chinese judges are there again? There are NONE. How many prominent ethnic Chinese Tv presenters are there? There are none. How many prominent ethnic Chinese journalists are there? There are none. <br /><br />Clearly, what you say about muslims not having real political power and representation because theyre not integrated in Britain whereas Chinese are 'integrated' and have it so good....is utter cr*p. In fact, its the exact opposite of what you say, Chinese are in your words are more 'integrated' yet have next to zero power and representation in 'wider society.' <br /><br />I'll put it bluntly shall I, you're an idiot. BBCZeitgeisthttp://www.bbczeitgeist.blogspot.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-64812398375076927952012-10-20T22:27:27.970+01:002012-10-20T22:27:27.970+01:00@Anonymous20 October 2012 20:37
Whose the victim ...@Anonymous20 October 2012 20:37<br /><br />Whose the victim here? The article is just pointing out media-manipulated fact. If anything, your whiny response here sounds you the one intimidated by our vocal pride.<br /><br />And if you are, get used to it. The Chinese race is ready to crush your pathetic unjustified false 'privilege.'happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-68774388191091952532012-10-20T20:37:46.558+01:002012-10-20T20:37:46.558+01:00You do realise that, from the perspective of white...You do realise that, from the perspective of white British, what you are complaining about is generally perceived as a good thing? These adverts are almost ethnic compliments.<br /><br />While you're calling for a group-think homogeneous identification of Asians under the banner of BBC, effectively forming a xenophobic ethnic minority, this is the exact sort of stance that leads to the racism directed against other ethnic groups. The "us and them" mindset is what leads to genuine racism and discrimination against other groups - by banding together under a racial banner, they gain recognition as a political group but loose acceptance and equality in wider society. Their issues become minority ethnic issues, simultaneously being pushed out of mainstream discourse and given a token consideration status. It's frankly demeaning, minority groups are only paid lip service to try and secure their vote, as if pretending to be on their side and then not doing anything will buy their shallow loyalty.<br /><br />I personally can't thing of anything more insulting.<br /><br />To be accepted as just part of mainstream society, regardless of origin, is what allows BBCs to do so comparatively well for an ethnic minority and to be so relatively safe from racial prejudice (when did you last see an EDL rally marching on east Asian areas with the intent to cause as much damage as possible? It happens far too frequently to Muslim areas)<br /><br />When did you ever see an advert where a Muslim girl has a white boyfriend? Be thankful you're considered integrated enough to have interracial relationships - nothing stops you having a relationship with other Chinese if you want to, but unlike many others you have the option of having a relationship with people from different backgrounds.<br /><br />You really need to loose this victim mentality - as things stand, east Asians have it really, really good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-70498857847156983382012-10-15T01:50:39.991+01:002012-10-15T01:50:39.991+01:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKtC9wiEfiU&fea...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKtC9wiEfiU&feature=player_embedded<br /><br />Heres another advert with TVB talent hunt finalist Kamay Kan featured on Steven Ip's neehao site http://www.neehao.co.uk/2012/10/tvb-talent-hunt-contest-2012-finalist-kamay-kan/<br /><br />Notice that just like the BT olympics advert how the Chinese female is represented as well accepted and integrated into British society with other white girls as her friends...she has no Chinese friends and there are no Chinese males in sight. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-56698851423703426092012-09-20T00:19:50.285+01:002012-09-20T00:19:50.285+01:00The equivalent of putting Mozart music in a docume...The equivalent of putting Mozart music in a documentary about social life in Ireland or Norway, which of course would never happenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-49133970937656929522012-09-20T00:18:37.537+01:002012-09-20T00:18:37.537+01:00Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Listen to the music 10 ...Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha<br /><br />Listen to the music 10 seconds into this video from the time I linked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRfyEZapoE&feature=player_detailpage#t=544s<br /><br />They used the exact same orientalist music for a documentary in Cambodia<br /><br />That is fucking pricelessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-50574363503516894202012-09-17T21:31:22.871+01:002012-09-17T21:31:22.871+01:00I dont know, I've only seen TVB travel program...I dont know, I've only seen TVB travel programmes, and when they visit European cities, i.e mozarts birth place etc, they do play european classical music in the background, but as its a travel programme - they never show poverty or controversial 'stuff,' i.e chinese tourists getting racially harassed. I've never seen an actual serious Chinese documentary reporting on the life of Europeans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-57641122592685582432012-09-17T20:37:26.497+01:002012-09-17T20:37:26.497+01:00The only way they can keep their viewers intereste...The only way they can keep their viewers interested as by putting stereotypical clips of people doing tai chi where it isn't needed and by inserting generic traditional Chinese music.<br /><br />Do Asian countries insert Bach and Mozart music whenever they broadcast documentaries about the west? Or maybe rock and roll?? Or maybe they insert random clips of race-hate crimes or of teenagers getting drunk and throwing up on the street every Friday and Saturday to represent the west?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-47286109340376761622012-09-09T21:48:29.405+01:002012-09-09T21:48:29.405+01:00Lovely, we have our 'oriental' representat...Lovely, we have our 'oriental' representation in the paralympics closing ceremony in the form of Coldplay and Rihanna Princess of ChinaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-51314505274010637962012-09-09T19:32:40.830+01:002012-09-09T19:32:40.830+01:00I usually give 'laowai in China' programme...I usually give 'laowai in China' programmes/websites a miss. But others maybe interested, please write a review & submit it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-87369187658440234632012-09-09T18:57:39.861+01:002012-09-09T18:57:39.861+01:00http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wrgyp
New seri...http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wrgyp<br /><br />New series on China and cars (uh oh, stereotypes ahoy) on BBC 2 on 9pm. Looking forward to it... I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-35225891273389378502012-09-07T10:47:16.465+01:002012-09-07T10:47:16.465+01:00Looks like the Apple tactic again. In the case of ...Looks like the Apple tactic again. In the case of Apple, they knew that a high percentage of their iphone consumers were East Asian.<br /><br />Shame we dont have any major leading Chinese tech brands in the west but for anyone interested heres the Samsung versus Apple debate, which apple won recently.<br /><br />http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/editorials/apple-v-samsung-aftermath-part-1-why-did-samsung-lose-r1090 <br /><br />Some of the comments are pro samsung, saying that apple steals from everyone and pretends to innovate - apple steals a lot of its stuff from Taiwanese companies. and that samsung makes a better cheaper product so apple just wanted to destroy them. All about the branding, I suppose.Anything can start to look attractive if you are bombarded with the images long enough.happybritishchinesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353669029143692138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-47533572058041536602012-09-07T00:11:51.855+01:002012-09-07T00:11:51.855+01:00Ahaha you can't make this up. So again followi...Ahaha you can't make this up. So again following on with another tech company's launch, this time Amazon's Fire tablet coming to the UK...<br /><br />http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0083PWAWU/<br /><br />scroll all the way down to the "Stay in Touch" section....<br /><br />http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/kindle/dp/2012/KT/feature-skype._V389678795_.jpg<br /><br />FOR FUCK SAKE....<br /><br />the white guys in charge of this are absolutely taking the piss. They know that oriental men disproportioately work in San Fran (where all the tech companies work) so they are in effect, shoving this white man-oriental woman ideal in our faces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-15647571152487964022012-09-06T20:42:12.561+01:002012-09-06T20:42:12.561+01:00Indeed, and the irony is that, even in the face of...Indeed, and the irony is that, even in the face of what white Brits (and many Chinese brits) see in Britain, they will STILL assume that the way they treat their disabled is far far better than how China treats theirs. I would say it's a subconcious thing.... we turn a blind eye to our race's biggest failings, whilst happily criticising and exaggerating that of other races... but that doesn't work, because many ethnic Chinese don't return the favour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-9830482457494270282012-09-05T22:20:40.871+01:002012-09-05T22:20:40.871+01:00Sorry for the delay. Yes, it was full of them and ...Sorry for the delay. Yes, it was full of them and I didn't see much to do with class or income - you had the typical old men on their pensions with their late 20-30 something chinese FOB who speaks no English and simply wants her kids to have a better life at all costs, even if it means her kids not looking like or being her. Then there were the 30 something men who were social outcasts/losers/criminals, similarly getting a mail order bride from an unsuspecting FOB...and of course the affluent men, 40+, who were financially well off and could easily impress any woman with their cash, but chose an oriental bride because of the "easy and submissive" stereotype...<br /><br />I have met all these types, in what is an otherwise completely white area (a few asians and blacks)... until recently that is, when many more chinese couples and their families moved in. I do worry that, like with my generation, the BBCs they have will turn into the FOB women and simply have their identity washed away. Whilst by comparison the asians and blacks who have been here for a few generations will continue and grow their racial identity whilst still being BritishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-74709954023613780202012-09-05T19:30:27.180+01:002012-09-05T19:30:27.180+01:00Update on tech companies and their seemingly one s...Update on tech companies and their seemingly one sided interrcial bias... Nokia and MS have just launched a new phone<br /><br />http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/9/5/1346864295948/b8bbcc87-b3f9-400b-b9ef-140a883e02c6-460.jpeg<br /><br />Look at the top right photo. How lovely.<br /><br />And in the Q+A, the guy says <br /><br />"During Q4 will enter select markets with intense focus and will continue to build from there. You can expect to see China very high on that list."<br /><br /><br />So he wants to focus on the Chinese consumer... Chinese men, looking at white men breeding with Chinese women and taking away their right to have a family. In their face. Whilst taking their money.<br /><br />Fuck off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-58489686014837535032012-09-05T18:27:13.295+01:002012-09-05T18:27:13.295+01:00So it's three whites and one black with one wh...So it's three whites and one black with one white with possible leanings to interracial. Then we have BT.<br /><br />Even if the ceremony is agenda driven, the deeper issues are what I have written. I believe it is not as simplistic as box ticking and Danny Boyle's selfish project. Chinese can be "ripped apart" as you say because of our lost of culture back in China and the longterm indoctrination of worshipping western culture. For this, it makes easy job for the media and advertisers. SF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-40312885348996917392012-09-04T23:59:18.837+01:002012-09-04T23:59:18.837+01:00four were mainly involved in producing the opening...four were mainly involved in producing the opening ceremony, two were white men, one was a black woman and the other is Danny Boyle who is in an IR relationship with a black actress. I mentioned it in the article. its agenda driven.<br /><br />http://bbczeitgeist.blogspot.com/2012/07/feel-british.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-44035671061405007592012-09-04T18:13:27.156+01:002012-09-04T18:13:27.156+01:00Wong, maybe you have misunderstood my last few par...Wong, maybe you have misunderstood my last few paragraphs. I'm trying to give the article starter my reasons for why we are seeing the 'lone' BBC famale. Number one, we are less, so we see no family, but just one representation. Two, we see a woman being represented because women are the fairer sex, and women sell better in the west. Couple that with decades of China's image of trying to move in with western modernity, we will see Chinese women merging in seemlessly unlike Indians and Pakistanis, because our culture has been lost after the revolution and continues today. I use the visual example as obvious proof. Most young people wear western clothing, and many also adopt a Christian first name, even when they live in China. You are less likely to see this in India or a Muslim country.<br /><br />Regards to the other point, I see your point about the movies, but the negative image I'm talking about is more to do with anti-social behaviour, crime and lack of education.<br /><br />These are serious negative images, whilst Chinese and Indians tend to have negative images attached with their sexuality. This is not to say it's not negative, but it's seen as lower down the scale of negativity compared with black men.<br /><br />The organisers only 'gain' as you say a pat on the back for being caring and sharing for doing the rounds of box ticking. In Britain, there is nothing more satisfying than feeling sorry for the unfortunate. Sadly, this has not quite extended to BBCs because they are seen as doing well in the background. Let's not forget, we live in a culture where money seems to be the answer to happiness. You only have to see how mainstream papers spend so much time snapping the rich. SF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-39567249172783257902012-09-03T21:19:29.635+01:002012-09-03T21:19:29.635+01:00"The 'favourable' you mention might b..."The 'favourable' you mention might be to do with positive discrimmination. Simply over-compensating for years of poor image tagged to black men. And if you pair them with a white partner, this immediately sends out a positive image of harmony and openness."<br /><br />What does the producer of the ceremony (who is white) have to gain from this though?<br /><br />"Whereas this is seen less with Asians and East Asians. Two reasons, the men in these categories have less of a negative image in reality, but more invisible as you say, but not negative, just seen as in the background with no role to play."<br /><br />Really? You've never heard the "all Asians guys have small penis her der" or "Asians all short hahaha" in your life? I can guarantee you that Asian males do have to suffer much negativity, promoted by Hollywood and TV propaganda like The Hangover movie, the TV series Chuck (which also features a typical orientalised hypersexualised Asian-American female), etc.<br /><br />Hollywood and America media is watched throughout the world, the majority of people who have never seen or interacted with an Asian person in their lives will probably build up that stereotypical image of Asians through their consumption of American media.<br /><br />It is a mixture of both negativity and invisiblity. The reason why most people don't pick up on it is that they aren't an Asian male (like yourself, no offense), we have to bear the grunt of all the stereotypes so we're the first ones that pick up on it and more easily as well. I mean how many white middle-class suburbanites complain and campaign against those Asian stereotypes? Probably close to 0.<br /><br />"You have to realise, we live in a highly sexualised society where women and sex sells. In developing countries, the western media wouldn't normally push developing/emerging country's women in this way because it might be too much progression, but on the Chinese, they will because we seem like a nation ready for change and dare I say, joining in with all things western, which is why this is happening."<br /><br />You don't necessarily see this as a positive thing, right? The girl in the advert is probably a BBC.. so I don't see what your comments have on China have to do with her, unless we're assuming that the "perpetual foreigner" stereotype is in place here and that most people will think she is a Chinese national regardless.<br /><br />Can you elaborate on your last two paragraphs? I don't really understand what you mean. When I first read it I thought you're reading into the advert too deeply.Wongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-52007217919619814252012-09-03T05:39:29.063+01:002012-09-03T05:39:29.063+01:00BBCZeitgeist, what do you mean when you say they&#...BBCZeitgeist, what do you mean when you say they're much more favourable to black males? The one represenatation was admittedly inside the Olympic stadium, but in fairness, this type of coupling is often seen reversed the other way round too, even though it's an exaggerated image of black women with white men.<br /><br />The 'favourable' you mention might be to do with positive discrimmination. Simply over-compensating for years of poor image tagged to black men. And if you pair them with a white partner, this immediately sends out a positive image of harmony and openness.<br /><br />Whereas this is seen less with Asians and East Asians. Two reasons, the men in these categories have less of a negative image in reality, but more invisible as you say, but not negative, just seen as in the background with no role to play.<br /><br />You have to realise, we live in a highly sexualised society where women and sex sells. In developing countries, the western media wouldn't normally push developing/emerging country's women in this way because it might be too much progression, but on the Chinese, they will because we seem like a nation ready for change and dare I say, joining in with all things western, which is why this is happening.<br /><br />The reason BT can push the lone or single representation is for two reasons. It's their way of saying there aren't enough of us to fill in realistically as a unit/family. Secondly, the Chinese has essentially for decades melted away their past and heritage, by that, I mean a strong separate social identity. <br /><br />We are really the most visible Asian continent with very little heritage left, when I say that, I mean visial identitly. Even in places like Malaysia, the original 'Malays' wear their traditional clothing, and the Indians too, but the Chinese don't. This is a strong message that allows the media to get straight in and immediately promote integration and separation from the family. Because the population of BBCs are so small, even more reason for BT to say they're only representing by averages, so the reason for lone females. SF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-19083475300115189622012-09-01T18:12:26.938+01:002012-09-01T18:12:26.938+01:00I was making an illustrative comparison with anon&...I was making an illustrative comparison with anon's link about the western press article on Chinas views towards their disabled, its ironic whilst these games are taking place and brits think how wonderful they treat their disabled, there are ATOS protests by the Britains disabled taking place simultaneously. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-37216687491211428772012-09-01T17:43:19.774+01:002012-09-01T17:43:19.774+01:00Without data on divorce rates amongst IR W-O marri...Without data on divorce rates amongst IR W-O marriages, with country level identity on the F, it is hard to make anything except speculative judgments. What I do know is that there are Chinese women who will give themselves away (e.g. to older married men) because they want a passport to this country. Such marriages, in my opinion, will likely be doomed to fail. And that is sad. I have no problem with IR marriages, so long as they are based in love and not the sexualization/sexual objectifying of either partner. I am worried about the many couples I meet, especially the Chinese women who I know are looking for relationship for the visa reasons and often their naive partners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5323715030257037352.post-33784383125209992612012-08-31T08:37:52.873+01:002012-08-31T08:37:52.873+01:00very good article. the people with hooks dangling ...very good article. the people with hooks dangling from their faces are trying the same thing in HK. <br /><br />beware the full frontal assault in the Chinese is here, you'll be surprised where these things are popping up, some of the least expected nooks and crannies.<br /><br />Ming ZhouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com