Sunday, 25 March 2012

How to become a whitewashed BBC sellout in 5 steps


'Racist? Only if you think it is!'

On the train, the other day, another BBC jumped on, just as the doors slammed tight on his backpack -    immediately I wedged my foot and squeezed the doors apart -  helped him yank his rucksack in,  he thanked me,  I shrugged it off.

Being a fellow Chinese, naturally I felt proud to help, but then as the train resumed journey, what were my first thoughts as I eventually tried to avoid eye contact with him?

'Sellout hipster!'

So who's at fault ? Me for being judgemental with no evidence of him being a sellout except his age, or modern BBCs  for not making an effort to develop a culture?

How about a bit of both?

Do I really feel that strong about it? Yes because allowing the doors to slam shut on that BBC would've been one less sellout to worry about!

With that said, here are the 5 steps to discover whether you are a BBC sellout....

1. Label anyone who tries to define ethnic Chinese cultural identification as 'extremist'



2. Ask them whether they consider themself  'Asian or British Born Chinese'



3. Ask them whether they think the word 'Chink' is offensive




4. Question them about British Born Chinese cultural identity and see what kind of reaction you get



5. Ask them whether this incident  , where a Chinese restaurant who fired a white student waiter was forced to compensate him to the tune of £2000-  was a racist incident or not?





Let's go through the list:

1. Call any ethnic Chinese who has Chinese pride 'an extremist' and give the biggest thumbs up to the opinion of non BBC EURASIAN / HAPA
2. Knowing that being British Born Chinese has no real developed identity, instead endorse the safety of Pan-Asian-ism as a replacement culture.
3. Consider the word 'Chink' only an issue once it's been used against their Asian hero, Jeremy Lin
4. Let a white person define your British Born Chinese cultural identity: 'Who cares if he's white or not - he has good opinions'
5.  Endorse bland multiculturalism: 'Most British people aren't racist, but racism still exists'

Are BBCS actually proud to be Chinese or just a bunch of whitewashed sellouts?

61 comments:

  1. Im still confused as to why you label the rucksack-tube guy a sellout. What was it about him you didnt like?

    I consider myself Asian rather than BBC because Ive travelled quite a bit in Asia and feel at home there. I like doing Asian things, reading Tang poetry, making dishes from scratch and hold family as very important. I think its sad when young people copy westerners and get drunk all the time and behave like general idiots and cuss their parents etc. It's a real shame.

    But each to his own, thats what Ive come to the conclusion. The only life you can govern is your own! Do I care if there are 'sell-outs' around? To be honest I dont care. It's like the Tao says - each one will find their own path at their own rate....

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    1. 'sad when young people copy westerners and get drunk all the time'

      yes i wonder if they were thinking of Lao Tzu when they do just that haha

      But in all the whitewashedness do any of these people even think theyre Chinese or is just irrelevant? And if so, why bother having a BBC facebook board? Being British Born Chinese may as well be called British whitewashed Asians and call it day right?

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    2. 'selling out' is defined differently by different people. How do you decide if someone sells out? Would you argue someone marrying inter racially is selling out? Selling out could be just an synonym for integration, those that have integrated the most will be the most westernised. They will not see selling out as a negative thing, since they want to integrate into mainstream British society as much as possible.

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    3. I still don't get why you call yourself Asian rather than BBC or Chinese. Do you not identify with other BBC's? Or as the article says is it because BBC's have perceived low status and are cultureless, therefore you're dissatisfied with BBC, so you seek a replacement identity?

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    4. @BBCz re selling out. its possible to integrate into british mainstream without sacrificing your chinese identity. But whilst other ethnic groups stick together, BBCS dont seem to have one due to the FOB ruled majority. Thats why BBCS need to consciously work on their own Chinese identity as individuals to create balance and that when BBCs strangers do meet each other have a sense of mutual understanding rather than a feeling of dislocation.

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    5. I disagree. Those most integrated are also usually the most sold out. You mention other ethnic groups, so lets look at some. Bangladeshi Muslims, Konnie Huq is the most integrated figure, shes also a complete sell out, she married Charlie Brooker ffs. Look at other muslims, Baroness Warsi has been criticised for being un-islamic.

      Keith Vaz cant speak his native language.
      Look at black footballers, they're the most integrated from black community, they hardly ever speak out against racism, in fact they usually do the exact opposite and defend the racists i.e John Terry, they also marry white women.

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    6. So then we are having a debate on what the definition of integration is. If you are talking about someone who goes to work, deals with all kinds of people in his day job, then comes home after hard days work, that he isnt integrating?

      Those examples you give are of individual sellouts from ethnic cultures that already have a strong cultural base in the UK - lack of interracil marriages and vocal about anti-racism. Do BBCS have the same? If they are not selling out then what defines us as a group that shows we have an equally strong cultural identity?

      Because as a collective, if we all approve of not speaking out against racism because we dont feel it exists and we all prefer to watch white programming and not be vocal about our Chinese pride, and we label those who are vocally proud about being Chinese as 'extremists' then what does that say about the non-selloutness or integrity of BBC 'culture'?

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    7. Since BBCs don't work in the Chinese community, they have jobs in the white community, they went to white or multi-ethnic schools, they have inter racial partners, they have mixed race children, they don't live in Chinese communities, well, not that we have any concentrated Chinese communities, so of course they're integrated into British society (unlike the FOBs), they have bought into multi-culturalism, it inevitably follows they'll eventually believe in the concept of a 'colorblind' nation. Indeed, the examples in your article showing their Belief systems and values shows a lot of them are colourblind already.

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  2. I read once on the old british chinese online forum, a thread : are you proud to be chinese' and one reply was ' i am proud to be, race doesnt exist' - why do so many bbcs have this attitude? its like being british brings out the serious white-washed tendencies, that they only have white company, talk about white things, listen to white music, eat white food, watch white tv programming

    Firstly how can you say race doesnt exist unless you look in the mirror and see a white person? That comment is just ridiculous.

    For BBCS its more about mindset - are you consciously thinking of your Chineseness or are you allowing the white default to win?

    Just because Chinese culture is in a state of development and you arent an artist, doesnt mean you cant find out for yourself what being Chinese means for you rather doing the whole lets run away from disciplinarian takeaway parents stuff.

    The more you know about what you love about being Chinese and visiting the homeland and acknowledge what specific parts of Chinese culture you appreciate as an individual (food, language, art - what kind of art?, music, film, fashion etc) the more confident you will be in your ethnic Chinese identity and not allow the white default to make you completely whitewashed.

    Another practical thing i can suggest for BBCS is that if you dont know any FOBS apart from your own parents, then make friends with them /date them./ improve your native tongue with them- any FOB that can help you learn to appreciate everything about your own Chinese identity. There are many FOB foreign students, who also want to know about british culture, so as a BBC that is a mutual exchange, not to mention you may be able to make a friend.

    All of the above will make you a less arrogant whitewashed sellout

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  3. I think I consider myself Asian because I identify myself and my traits with other Asian people across the globe, not just in Britain. I think we all hold similar values, plus I like the fact that when im in Asia in whichever country ie HK, China, Singapore I can pass as any of the natives, it makes me feel at home :-) When I speak with other Asian people we instantly click in a way that I never do with white western people. We're more considerate, more spatially aware and just more in tune. I am a considerate quiet person although in a group situation im quite confident but I dont like loud aggressive rude behaviour. Which is something Im seeing from a lot of BBC here that have picked up their behaviour from the majority around them. Having said that, being raised in the west does make you more independant and confident in a way as it encourages to challenge lots of stereotypes whereas in Asia the attitutde is all to do with submission?...but thats a whole other article...

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    1. Yes id agree that in Asia they are more submissive and more arrogant in the west but rather than confronting stereotypes, many BBC's choose to let it slide and self depreciate their chinese roots, to say nothing of consciously developing their own British Born Chinese cultural identity.

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    2. Simply Lee considers himself "asian" coz i reckon he don't hang around with many BBCs or BBCs in the UK with an attitude, but adopts some wishy washy peace man philosophy, which is fine b4 he gets vexed, cos i used to be like that as a way of coping with a complex identity, but its all fake you found when you "find" your "real" self in that journey....reason why "sell outs" well, there are sell outs in HK and China who just only out for themselves coz they poor or need the money money money as JessieJ says. SE Chinese never been politically active etc, don't 4get HK has had 150 yrs of empire brit rule and have instilled at the roots a english base education, law and econ etc...Chinese people in general as a collective in the China sense, are more into the collective rather that free spirited individualism. BBCs speak and are born in england, but can't help but be "british" some more than others that's all.
      Anyway throw around these ideas...comment laters

      If i was the writer i strike a conservation with the guy he just helped, b4 making assumptions.

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    3. So to follow the Tao and the writings of Lao Tzu are now considered to be 'fake' for an Asian person?...You consider this to be 'wishy washy peace man philosophy?' I think that says more about you that is does me...

      Standing on top of a mountain and beating your chest whilst shouting at your opponent doesnt make you more of a man..

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    4. @lee
      Not really, it says something about your arrogance, and lack of understanding of critical philosophy.

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    5. @AnonymousMar 26, 2012 09:24 AM

      Youre right maybe I should have struck a conv before making assumptions, its just like I said, I havent met many younger BBCs who are vocally proud of their Chinese culture so maybe I couldve been pleasantly surprised.

      Long ago, Southern Chinese Boxers were famous for fighting against Anglo imperialism , admittedly thats when they were drugged out on Opium and had nothing to lose, and that BBCs care little for that history, shows that the idea of identity as far as being British Born Chinese is negligible.

      Re more British than others, well thats the issue isnt it. Is the emphasis more on British Born or Chinese? Because if its the British part, may as well forget developing any British Born Chinese identity.

      IMO Ignoring the complexities of race, politics, and conscious cultural development of identity in a western world, its an pointless to assume that being British Born Chinese has any substantial weight. If some of the facebook lot are anything to go by, may as well be an English language speaking consumer who has yellow skin who thinks that racism doesnt exist.

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    6. I suppose it can be argued that if the definition of sellout means not being proud of being Chinese enough to want to develop a western Chinese identity over a lame facebook board of spelling games, then some BBCS probably ARENT sellouts, because theres nothing to sell out, they are just lame to begin with.

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  4. Being only 28% of the UK chinese population its important that 100% of us learn to evolve our BBC identity for ourselves rather than lapping up white culture that ironically created by the same people who seek to make us invisible and actually perpetuate the facebook slogan for the BBC page ' confused about your identity BS' . I guess looking to Asian American culture is one way for BBCs to go but as a replacement culture, nothing will happen unless we develop a culture for ourselves from a pan-asian mindset, but a pro-Chinese attitude.

    Whilst whites have privilege of the pick and choose culture, BBCS need to realise that they arent as fortunate, so need to learn to nurture our Chinese ethnic identity consciously and actively and take advantage of the benefit of both understanding western culture, develop critical understanding, appreciation of Chinese roots, brushing up on our language skills. etc. Once that's done we can be proud to be BBC.

    When whites non/chinese who do the above, are either weeaboos who want to score 'asian chicks' or businessman who want Chinese money. In other words they are just doing it to benefit their own white privilege.

    At the highest level,with critical understanding of both western and Chinese culture, a BBC can be an ethnic Chinese leader, but as long as we squander our opportunities and diss our Chinese roots BBC cultural identity as a whole will remain stuck in cultural identity confusion/suicide.

    BBCs can be rude and arrogant like whites but only after they have taken the time to fully develop their BBC cultural identity for themselves and respect and nurture their Chinese cultural identity. Because once they have done that, at the very least they would be arrogant dickheads with a well developed individual Chinese cultural identity.

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  5. You were hardly helping by ignoring the BBC. That is a huge part of the problem - how are we supposed to have unity on racial issues when we don't even acknowledge and respect fellow BBCs, especially when you judged on a superficial value? Did you see him idolising whites, begging to be part of a white group, sucking up in anyway? No, he was just wearing "hipster clothes" whatever that is. Remember that we are British, we are just also racially Chinese... clothes do not change who we are.

    I agree with regards to the complete lack of support, and many times ridicule, brought on by fellow ethnic Chinese just so we can "keep the peace". It is always a losing battle when ethnic Chinese do not acknowledge that we are having a drastic erosion on our root identity, that compared to other races and communities we are whitewashing ourselves merely to be more accepted.

    How we will reverse this, I don't know... but one way of NOT doing it is to look at your fellow BBC - even if they knee deep in white idolisation - in disgust.

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    1. I'm amazed he is able to tell its a BBC just by the clothing, since I've seen many FOB students dress way more hipster, especially the ones studying fashion etc.

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    2. re clothing, if i didnt make it clear, he said 'Thanks Man' after I let him in on the train in a british accent, hence BBC- unless hes a well educated FOB but he just had that British slacker way of moving, whereas FOBS are more stilted and panicky.

      The way I define hipster is this kind of smart arse attitude which okay is cocky british attitude but theres no Chinese pride there.

      Re: 'looking at fellow BBC with disgust'. I think i already mentioned/admitted its an age thing as most of my friends who are BBC are in their late 20s/30s+. I already mentioned above that I probably made a mistake in being assuming. And yes I agree with you that having a go at other BBCs is not the right way to go.

      But why doesnt anyone come on here apart from the regular posters from FB to have a go at me?

      This article has been posted on the facebook page and they are openly invited to comment on here but no, they choose to stay on the safety of their page. If they are so proud to be Chinese why not sign up here and join us?

      Once again its them against us and noone seems to miss the point of Chinese pride.

      That FB and British Chinese Online are the two biggest online sources for BBC talking/sharing and none of them apparently ( although its sometimes hard to tell with all the anonymous IDs) seem to give a rats arse about a British Born Chinese political /cultural identity.

      Instead its just as usual me and BBCz yapping away, and a few regulars for what? Im tired of trying to be positive or create solutions when mostly all i get is insults for being extremist and taliban. Honestly Its like flogging a dead horse and eventually I will get tired of it. Look at the counter on your right 100k views and 100+ referrals and yet noone apart from the regular's comments.

      So follow your damn whitewashed ways and keep your remembrance day poppy on your facebook page as if I could give a shit anymore.

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    3. So now you're judging him purely because he seemed to be well brought up and educated? and if he wasnt then you denigrate him as a FOB? Seems you cant win either way. Have you noticed the flaw in your logic always leads back to the same road - your simmering resentment at ALL Chinese, they can never measure up to your standards.

      Maybe you should analyze your own judgemental attitude and you might find the world a better place. Instead of shooting someone down WHEN THEY HAVE DONE YOU NO INSULT OR OFFENCE you might become a happier person. But I doubt it.

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    4. Why is FOB denigration? Some FOBS are pretty cool. My BBC mates are too. Its not resentment at all Chinese. That you are offended means that I've done my job well. If I wrote an article about how all modern BBCS are cool and the culture is fine to be Asian and not call out racism, then you'd be alright with that wouldnt you.

      Funny how noone has managed to disagree with the 5 steps made in the article

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  6. Jeremy Lin is not my hero. I am not an American, and I don't play or watch basketball.

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    1. Good start. Do you think more BBCs should speak out against anti-Chinese racism? Or do you think those who complain about it are being 'over-sensitive'?

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    2. I think you're racist to your own people. HAlf of this blog is aimed at BBC who arent acting 'Chinese' enough whatever that means, the other half is aimed at Asian women and judging them for trying to fit into a white world..

      If anything I would say YOU were oversensitive, judging people all the time. You're not a happy british chinese, contrary to your name. and if this gets deleted then Ill know its because this blog cannot withstand any kind of criticism even though its happy to dish out cruel personal criticism especially at women eg naming people specifically Katie Leung etc.

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    3. You're incorrect, there are exactly 100 articles on this blog now. Look at the article tags, inter racial topics only make up 13 articles in total, which is 13% of the total content. The fact you keep focusing on the same issue says more about your own mindset in terms of what content you choose to read.

      Why should Katie Leung be subject to immunity from criticism? No one should be subject to immunity.

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    4. How dare you not call me not HappyBritishChinese! Thats my name! I take great offense!

      Its not about acting Chinese, its about being proud to express your Chinese ethnicity in culture in intention,creativity, a media presence and enough to create a social structure that we all can relate to as BBCS, apart from spelling games. Huge idealism, but nothing to lose looking at the sad state of the way British Chinese 'culture' is right now. But maybe reading Tang poetry will solve all that?

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    5. fong pei tang si1 April 2012 at 05:22

      @Lee
      "think you're racist to your own people" No its people like Gok Wan who calls himself Chink. Tang poetry what a waste of time, it doesn't inspire change but introspective apathy.

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  7. If a BBC who dressed up as a hipster or follow western fashion trends is selling out, then how do you suggest us proud BBC/Chinese should dress? You don't need to answer that.

    'Sellout' is not a term I use casually as it can be interpreted differently by others. Do we need to set rules on how BBCs should conduct their daily lives (as well as the way they dress) in order to feel proud of their identity? I don't think so, otherwise then I would have broken many rules. Like that anonymous person had said it's a rather superficial way of looking at things. I see pride as something much deeper and it isn't simply about your cultural practice. As BBCs it doesn't really help if we try too hard to distinguish everything into British versus Chinese, East versus West etc. In actual fact it will confuse us more and doesn't fit into the complicated reality we're living in.

    Why you don't get as many people to discuss on here is most likely that they are intimidated by your views but I guess that's the appeal of this blog. Though to get that many views is quite an achievement. I think most people are too used to the mainstream political correctness so they shy away from sensitive stuff. It's important that these issues should be openly discussed regardless of opinions. However after not checking back in a while I must admit that I'm becoming more and more in disagreement with a lot of the posts. But keep it though.

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    1. I don't agree with HBC's comment. But I believe he's simply making the point that many BBC's are in his eyes - sell outs, therefore he is asking who is at fault for prejudging or expecting every BBC's he comes across to be a 'sell-out,' i.e having the same attitudes as the BBC examples in the article.

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    2. @BBC Ronin

      Its not about dresssense only. If you lot are looking at dress sense only you are understanding my article from a superficial point of view.

      What is your suggestion for solving this complicated reality that BBCs live in? Should BBCs not bother with creating an identifiable culture?

      Like i said above if someone contest with the 5 points ive raised in the article, then maybe I should pull the article down. But so far, noone has disagreed. Mustve hit a nerve?

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  8. Dressing trendily is NOT selling out, this blog is so out of touch with whats going on these days. Have you seen how young people dress in the big cities like HK, Beijing, Taipei etc? They are uber trendy!

    Maybe you were offended by the 'hipster' because you felt not as cool as him?

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    1. Yes he was far too cool for me. Im completely embarrassed now.

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  9. I can't help but wonder how Happy dresses. Presumably he cuts quite quite a dash in his floral-print cheongsam.

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    1. Actually I wear a big st georges flag tshirt get drunk with my white mates and blame other BBCS whenever they complain about racism, because it doesnt exist. I also love spelling games , and talking about white tv programmes. I also couldnt give a shit about BBCs having their own media or having their own culture because Im a self absorbed whitewashed brat.

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  10. Still stuck on 14 subscribers! One of your aims for 2012 should be to make it to 15.

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    1. Blogger allows users to create open - stand alone blogs. Examples of online communities are Tumblr, Facebook, Youtube, Stickam etc. Blogger is NOT a community. Therefore the number of subscribers is confined to Blogger account holders. Even I don't 'openly' subscribe to any blogs and I'm blogger myself, you can follow blogs in other ways without subscribing.

      As commenting is open to all, not confined to a registered community, subscribing is irrelevant. Regardless if zero or 1000 - they don't need to subscribe to follow a blog. The blog has already gained notoriety, readers already know the URL. The only numbers that matter are comment tally and traffic, both are at record highs.

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    2. @AnonymousMar 29, 2012 10:16 AM

      Who cares about subscribers when half the fun is made up of ridiculing anonymous trolls like yourself

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  11. edysun fingers1 April 2012 at 20:16

    Am I the only one that thinks Gokwan doesn't look cool or stylish? his dumbed down attire with silly stud add-ons and embarrassing cheap haberdashery looks well tacky.
    I ve seen BBCs, chinese, well all sorts who wear nice clothes look cool without trying too hard, those are the ones i call yauying, wanna date. As to the intellectual content of the conversation that s another story.

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  12. Gok is a gay fashionista,so no holds barred there. I think we do look cool, re attitude its as someone already pointed it out on another article, 'post-modern humour' that i now I get where people are coming from. But the 5 points still remain...until someone comes up with any good counter-argument.

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  13. Asians are good examples of a group that sticks up for itself ?

    Sorry I don't agree, from what I see many if not most BCAs barely speak their own language and most of them ape Whites to the T. I mean come on if you couldn't see their faces and just heard their voices they sound so English you wouldn't know the difference.

    An their women don't interbreed with whites ?

    LOL, nonsense they love it.

    I think only in the last decade or has this changed a bit mainly due to their numbers increasingly so dramatically that their whitewashedness as you call it gets masked.

    Oh, and no people the far east are NOT submissive in the way some have implied - you just don't know, you really need to master the language before you can see this.

    It is true though - Chinese society is secretive but I kind of like that at least now.


    Ming

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    1. Who are talking about? what is BCA? never heard of such an acronym.

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    2. I dunno what funny mushrooms ming greezer been eating.

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    3. Ming Rev your comment makes no sense at all, you okay?

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  14. OK that should be BBA = british born asian, not bca.

    appreciate that I work and don't have time to write beautiful pieces like some people.

    Ming

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    1. What's beautiful writing got to do with making sense? Chee lun seen...

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    2. you don't know what a british born asian is ?

      Ming

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    3. First time i ever heard BBA term.

      Also 'interbreeding with whites' should be posted on the other mixed race articles, this article is about BBCS having a whitewashed english attitude, which im guessing you probably dont understand entirely unless you are a BBC yourself.

      And BBA whitewashed gets 'masked' because more immigrants to UK? Why? If you are refering to BBCS as far as i know they dont mix as much with immigrants.

      And not sure how Chinese secretiveness has anything to do with the article.

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  15. Unrelated, but still, check out this Indian (or whatever a Gupta is) equating lack of hygiene in takeaways to terrorists and honour killers (of whom most aren't deported)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125599/Is-Britains-worst-Chinese-takeaway-Owner-fined-2-000-dead-flies-mould-floors-covered-grease.html#comments

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    Deport the owners.

    - Gupta, ENGLAND, 5/4/2012 17:13
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    And no mention of the takeaway owners not being British or being born here... talk about other minorities having ulterior motives - get rid of the Chinese, bring more Indians lol!

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    1. Gupta the Indian has issues. There are press articles almost daily about hygiene problems in Chinese takeaways as there are articles about illegal workers employed in them, that's one of the reasons why I don't like covering these stories, they're repetitive and anti-Chinese, now I can understand why the likes of the Daily Mail and tabloids constantly report these stories, so its audience can bash Chinese people. Do we want to join them too?

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  16. Re: catering competition, its possible, but if that Gupta is real, sounds like a typical whitewashed British Indian - another reason why BBCs should remain aware of becoming whitewashed because at that level, you start getting the' go back to where you come from ' white racism but from other British ethnics, which could easily come, from a whitewashed BBC.

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    1. indeed, it has happened already with a bbc girl in scotland! Think it was a student forum, she said she was going clubbing with a friend when she had unwelcome attention from a black American... when she tells him to leave her alone he tells him to go back home chink! Oh the irony...

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    2. Inter-ethnic racism. Ive been on the receiving end of various forms of casual racism from other British ethnics,once or twice and its bloody annoying. They are usually in groups of two or more and when you least suspect it. Hasnt happened for a while, but the last time it did happen , I had a good way of dealing with it, which worked for me, which I may write about in an upcoming article.

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  17. It really isn't your right to judge a Chinese person as a sell out, especially just by their looks, and if a person doesn't want to develop a so called BBC culture, so what? We all live how we want

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    1. If you read the article, which Im guessing you didnt, its not judging him on looks, its the principles of being ethnic Chinese in a white society.

      As a BBC its my right to judge another BBC, just as much as, being an ethnic Chinese, I've have been judged as 'racist' for looking down on white people by those same BBCS who suck up to whites.

      And that BBCs dont want to develop our own culture or even a collective political body will only backfire on us if shit ever hits the fan like it has for other ethnic UK communities.

      Of course ethnic Chinese unity is no doubt the last thing on the mind of a selfish multiculturalist like yourself.

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  18. @HappyBritishChinese, your last paragraph shows you up for being just as bigoted as the "whitewash" few 'you' can claim as being whitewash. After all, what is so odd about people taking in what they are surrounded with?? Who are you to judge that someone who enjoy the culture here as being a sell-out anyway. You write as if you can speak for all, and watch your words too, with the individualistic stance of promoting segregation. You really are no different to the few who believe that segregation forms strong sub-cultures. Remember, BBC percentages are in no way similar to Indians and Black Afro-Carribeans. Perhaps that might be a clue?

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    1. Its not segregation. Its about creating a political conscious based on ethnic Chinese pride, which every western Chinese group (US, Australia,etc) deserves to have. Regardless of percentage, as an ethnic group, we deserve our own proper political and cultural representation.

      http://bbczeitgeist.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/what-bbcs-can-learn-from-boxer.html

      Also as 27% of 500000 (2009 figures est from wiki) British Chinese by my calculation thats still 135,000 BBCs. As children of FOBS or mediators, we ought to have more of a political awareness of what it means to be western born Chinese,rather than being mediators for FOB parents all our lives. Theres enough info on this blog, if you can take the time to look into it, that all points to the fact that BBCs can be leaders of British Chinese community, but instead we take the easy way out, of self resignation and complacency when we can do so much more as a collective, if we could actually be bothered.

      Re:Speaking for others, the article is just my opinion.I'm a guestblogger. You can become one too, if you want.

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  19. Fair enough, I don't dispute the amount of BBCs around the western developed world, however, this lack of strong collective identity and mediators as you say for FOBs might be a little narrow minded. Not all BBCs are docile and passive, and certainly not all are respectful of their parents either.

    You sound like you want BBCs to form or morph into something else so the media can start writing about us. Perhaps the lack of a new forming culture might be to do with so many university educated individuals who have learned to carve out a career for themselves and eventually 'blend' into bland mainstream culture. This blending in is what FOBs call and promote as success. Sounds like the crime is to be sensible and hard working, and for that, you create less fuss and accept bite sized success.

    I don't research extensively what other BBCs are doing on the internet, but from how others have reacted to my views and political views on British forums, they seem to think I'm extreme. But judging by some of the comments here, it's accepted by BBCs. Isn't that a little ironic?

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    1. 'You sound like you want BBCs to form or morph into something else so the media can start writing about us.'

      ..you can inteprete the article anyway you want.Personally I dont care about the western media, because if youve done your research on BBCs on this blog you will know that we are invisible to their eye.

      BBCs are so mainstreamed and blended thanks to FOB hard working value systems that we dont have our own unique identity. Yes, thats common knowledge.

      Yes there are a few 'rebels' but at the end of the day, these are individuals, who do not have a collective at heart. Inherently they still worship FOB values, and as we know by now, FOBS dont care about a western political cultural identity.

      I cant tell how many comments you have written here, because your ID is anonymous. So its hard to say where you are an extremist.

      Maybe get a google ID or sign in with a regular name for solidarity?

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  20. @HappyBritishChinese, not totally sure what your comments were from the last comments, but take it, BBCs may have an identity crisis due to background and upbringing coupled with lack of integration with other BBCs, certainly me, and the reason I recently ventured out to see what fellow British Borns are up to. Looks like I'll need to add further comments elsewhere, because some threads urgently require further discussions and opinions. For now, I'll sign SF so you'll know it's me.

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    1. Sure, and if you have any topics or articles you'd like to get published, feel free to email the blog owner at

      bbczeitgeist@hotmail.co.uk

      The more extreme the better!See you soon.

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